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Thomas Hanrahan elopes with boss's teenage daughter, Ceclila Manley, to England and then Australia
Patrick O'Hara, Irish immigrant to Australia, marries then dies young.
Margaret Murphy, widow and publican, raises second family, then remarries.
John Hanrahan, gardener, raises family in Elsternwick
Mary Ann (Hanrahan) Andrews struggles to raise family of seven during 1930's Depression,
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Thomas Hanrahan & Cecilia Manly
What we know of our  Hanrahan family story starts with the marriage of Thomas Hanrahan to Cecilia Manly in Bradford, Yorkshire on the 10th August 1855. Thomas, born in Clare Ireland, was 42 and Cecilia, born in Mayo, was 17. The family story is that Thomas was employed as a gardener by the parents of Cecilia, in Ireland, and that they eloped. I have searched the St. Catherine's Index of marriages in England and could not find a reference. A possible misspelt entry is Kearney Cecilia Sep Qr 1855 Bradford 9b 229 see email below. The Irish Potato Famine was coming to an end about this time but may still be relevent.

The death certificate shows the parents of Thomas to be Michael Hanrahan and Bridget Harer, both farmers. I have searched the available records from Clare and could find no reference to them. (Note that many parish records were lost in a fire in Dublin in the 1920s..)

Cecilia (Manley)
                  Hanrahan (we think!!)Cecilia’s parents are equally elusive. Her death certificate (in 1900), with son John as the informant, shows her parents as Thomas Michael Minneby (surname difficult to read), a butcher, and mother Cecilia. This contrasts with the certificate from her second marriage (in 1880, see below) which shows her parents as James Manesy (again difficult reading), a farmer and Honora M.. (difficult). Other references and family recollections have her surname as Manly or Manley. Each document agrees she came from Mayo. From the marriage certificate I note she signed with "her mark", a cross, indicating she could not write. I have decided to record the parents as James Manley and Honora until more detail is available.

See the very interesting emails below and understand the difficulties in trying to link a family tree together.

Looking through the Griffith Valuations and Tithe Applotment Books (Land Tax Records for the early to mid 1800s) shows two Manly entries and two Manley entries in Mayo. Another entry found was a James Manley of Clovnglasna (maybe Cloonglasney), in the Parish of Ardagh, Tirawley, Mayo. This is about 3 miles from Ballina near Lough Conn and the River Deel. Subsequent research in 2007 has failed to find the above entry (I did not document the original source) but I did find and entry in Griffith's for Mullany, James Cloonglasney Ardagh Mayo.

The various Manley certificates I have to hand are reproduced on a separate page.

Map link  http://www.mayolibrary.ie/maps/data/Townlands/CZT.htm

Thomas and Ceclia’s first child, John Patrick Hanrahan, was born in Bradford Yorkshire in 1856. A search of the St Catherine’s Index of births in England has been unsuccessful. 

In about 1857 family came to Australia. Why, how and by what ship is not known. I have not found their names among the shipping and assisted immigrant lists.

It appears that Thomas worked as a labourer in Melbourne’s southern suburbs and I assume mixed in the Irish Catholic community. Cecilia is said to have borne fourteen children of which seven survived infancy. In 1872 the family’s address was the corner of Duke and Hornby St., Windsor. Later it seems they moved to the Morang area, about 30 km to the North of Melbourne. In 1877, at Morang, Thomas died at 65 years of age. He was buried in the St Kilda cemetery with some of the infant children. A gravestone, near the main gate on the right, remains there today.

Research by distant cousin Joe  reveals that the second child Honora later used the name Annie. She married Thomas Jones in 1873 and died in 1891. Only one child, Eloie, survived infancy.

In 1880, several years after Thomas’ death, Cecilia remarried Michael Murray, an Irishman from Waterford. They both gave their address as Jane Field. (Janefield is now called Bundoora, an outer Melbourne suburb; then it was rural. Coincidentally the Miller family operated a large horse property known as Mill Park in the area..) The ceremony was performed at St Elms, Heidelberg; witnesses at the wedding were John Hanrahan and Honnora Jones. Later Michael & Cecilia show an address at Murphy St., Elsternwick. She died at New St., Elsternwick in Aug 1900. There were no known children of this union.
Hanrahan Descendants
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Hanrahan Grave in St Kilda Cemetery
Hanrahan grave in St Kilda Cemetery 

An series of very interesting emails


from Ted Woodman

Dear Peter;
Congrats on website. I have been searching the Hanrahan site for some until I came upon your site; because some time ago ,a distant cousin informed me that in the late 1930's; my grandmother informed her that her mother(my ggrandmother)whose father; was count d,or; eloped from county mayo,with a man named hanrahan, who was employed by her father. i can remember my deceased mother speaking of a "miss"hanrahan on her
mother's side;and she was quite proud of her irish connection.however, my grandmother's maiden name was Took; and she would have been born around 1869; which makes it somewhat tenuous,however the matter intrigues me.
well thanks for your'e time; i hope to research further.
yours sincerely; Ted Woodman, eastbourne,

Thanks Ted,
Interesting story; cannot find anybody named Took in the family tree. Maybe the Hanrahans were serial elopers...
Cheers
from Bob Hanrahan
Subject:     Hanrahan, Manley families
Date:        Wed, 8 Aug 2001 

I enjoyed reading your account of Thomas Hanrahan and Cecilia Manley on your website.  The interesting part for me was that Thomas and Cecilia eloped from County Clare Ireland and went to England and then Australia.  My GGGGrandmother Margaret (Mulqueen) Hanrahan emigrated to Saratoga county New York State about 1857 (from somewhere in the Limerick or Clare area) with 5 boys.  The father of her children was listed as Thomas Hanrahan and she was listed on her gravestone as the wife of Thomas.  Thomas and Margaret's boys were John (b. about 1836), Patrick, Thomas, James, and  the 5th boy, I recently discovered, was not Margaret's child at all but the son of Thomas and another woman (either Mary Relileau or Bridget Madigan).  The reason I suspect it may have been Bridget Madigan is that a listing on Kathyrn McCarthy's website for Kilcolman  parish baptisms lists Thomas Hanrahan and Bridget Madigan as parents of Michael Hanrahan in 1847 with Margaret Mulqueen as a sponsor.  Well you can probably tell by know that I suspect my Thomas and your Thomas may well be the same man.  I have found no records of what happened to him.  If you have any information on Thomas' earlier life, I's certainly be interested in hearing from you.
Bob Hanrahan (Leo Robert Hanrahan Jr)

Thank you Bob
Is this our Thomas? The dates match well; the "modus operandi" may match as well. The records say he was from Clare and Cecilia from Mayo. We have assumed he was working in Mayo at the time of elopement but no other indication of movement are availiable.
from Drew Reed

Subject:  Re: The Hanrahan & Manley Families, England, Ireland & Australia 

From:     "REED" ...

Date:    4 Feb 2002

My great-grandmother was also called Cecilia MANLEY. She was b. in Bishop Auckland in northern England in 1883, the penultimate of 11 (5surviving) children of Anthony Manley by his second wife Kate SOLAN. The Manley and Solan families were both immigrants from Ireland to Bishop Auckland in the years immediately following the Great Famine, the Solans from somewhere in Co Galway in the Spring of 1854 (RC Church bapt. register) and the Manleys at some date prior to the 1851 census from Co Mayo (family lore says the Ballina area thereof.)

Now for the interesting part. The 1851 census shows my great-great-grandfather Anthony aged 17, masons labourer and younger brother James 12, ditto, both living with their elder sister Ellen LYNCH, 28, and her husband Patrick LYNCH, 32, glazier. Patrick was b. in Sunderland, Co Durham, ENG, all the Manleys in Ireland. There is no sign of any parents or of any other siblings and my great-grandmother was never willing to talk about her father's origins, leaving the unstated idea that he was a Famine orphan ... but was he?

The marriage cert. for Anthony's first marriage to Margaret CONROY in 1855 fails to list his father, and no mention is made in the PRs either BUT, we are luckier with the second marriage to my gg-gm Kate Solan, as Anthony's father is given as James Manley, farmer, dec'd.

OK, so far we both have a James Manley, farmer, Ballina and two Cecilias. Now I don't have proof of my Anthony's mother's name BUT, given that both he and James named their eldest son and daughter James and Honora, I am fairly confidant that Honora it was and so there's another 'coincidence' in these two stories. Is your Cecilia in fact a missing sib. of my Ellen, Anthony and James?? Can we EVER prove it?!

I gather you haven't been able to find Cecilia's 1855 marriage in the GRO index? Presumably she's mistranscribed as something else. You have presumably checked under Hanrahan too? Have you tried sending to the DRO in Bradford giving names and the Sep Qr of 1855 plus a likely church (I think St Patrick's, Sedgefield Terrace/Westgate would be the only RC church in the town in 1855) to see what they can come up with?

Cecilia is such an unusual name that I've often wondered where my gg-gps got it from ... all their other daughters were apparently named after their mother's sisters, though names like Ann, Elizabeth and Mary/Maria are hardly out of the ordinary C19 Irish names, are they?!

As for Griffiths ... I'd discounted that James nr. Ballina as my ggg-gf because I was assuming (as per Great Grandma's intimation) that he'd died in the Famine and Griffiths wasn't undertaken until the mid 1850s I think! BUT ... if he didn't die, then it does look likely. I'll see which RC parish covers that township and whether any PRs survive. If they do, there's a good chance they're on LDS film as the Mayo coverage is amongst the best in IRL.

Best wishes,
Drew Reed
Scotland
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Additional info from Drew Reed in Aug 2007

Thanks for tacking me down and getting in touch after all this time.

Although I haven't made any great strides in my Manley research in the last 5 years, I do have one bit of crucial new information, that is, the name of the townland in Co Mayo from which they originated, recorded in the English 1901 census. And, despite family lore, it wasn't near Ballina - they were from Massbrook which is part of Mayo Town and in the Catholic parish of Mayo Abbey, in the south of the county close to the Galway border.

I doubt that I have any (close) connection to Paul (
Manley see below). His Anthony and mine are not the same, as in 1901 'mine' was not a widower, he was a (retired) stonemason not a hawker and he was bed-ridden in No 59, Surtees St, Bishop Auckland, not visiting nearly 200 miles away in Peterborough. And of course, his father was James not John.

That said, I'm still not discounting the distinct possibility that he WAS brother to you Cecilia.

BTW, have found an interesting entry in FeeBMD and just wonder if it's the (mistranscribed) entry for your Hanrahan-Manley marriage:

Kearney  Cecilia  Sep Qr 1855   Bradford 9b 229

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And again Aug 2007
....And if Cecilia could not write that puts to rest the story she came from a "well to do" family. .....

....It's a very common story. More likely perhaps is that Thomas was the farm boy on her Father's farm. And while we're at it, the occupation of my Manleys has always interested me. My ggg-gf James was a 'farmer' per his sons' mariage cets, confirmed by the parish registers (Latin of course) which say 'agric., dec.' And immediately you get a mental image of prosperous famhouse and well-tended fields. But isn't the reality probably closer to what we might now describe as 'peasant'? Probably stone 'hut' with sod roof and mud floor and scratching a living from a couple of cows and a potato patch......

Thank you David,
The family names, birthdates and locations match fairly well. The family has had an (overly?) romantic image of a young Cecilia leaving behind a comfortable life and running away to the new world with her lover. The Famine puts this into a new light.

from Paul Manley
Good Morning:

I may be related to you through Cecilia and also Drew Reed. My great grandfather was Patrick Joseph Manley born in Ballina, County Mayo in 1841.  I recently found an extensive obituary for him and learned a few facts about his origins.  He left Ireland while young after the famines and was one of four children raised by an older sister.  They settled in Eastern England in Stamford and latter he was a grocer and prominent citizen in Peterborough.  None of the family shows in the English census until 1861.  According to Patrick's marriage certificate in 1878 his father's name was John who was a traveler or hawker.   I found a death certificate for a John Manley in Stamford who was also a traveler and hawker.  I think he is the same man. He was born in 1791 There was also a John Manley on the voter registration in Ballina in 1850.  A John Manly (sic) appears as a renter of two properties in Ballina in the 1847-1856 period.  It is possible they are the same person.  However the first John Manley owned property and could vote.  I am not sure about the difference in Manly vs Manley as the spelling.

Dominick Manley was also from Ireland and lived in Stamford. He was also a hawker, traveler and a tea dealer.  My great grandfather was apprenticed to a tea dealer and this was the business he had as a grocer.  I tend to think Dominick was an uncle.  He remarried in England in 1853.  He was born in about 1804. His father's name was Patrick Manley, a farmer.   I can image a scenario where Dominick is widowed and has lost children, he has some connecting to selling tea and uses them to locate employment in England.  He can take a bigger risk not having a wife and children. John Manley sells his property in Ballina but lives on it for awhile and that provides money for resettling.  My 1861 my great father was apprenticed to a tea dealer and in a few years had his own place.

An interesting point is that a visitor to Patrick Joseph Manley's house in the 1901 census is listed as Anthony Manley.  The only details are that he was born in Ireland around 1836, was a widower and a hawker. He could be an older brother. Northern England and Peterborough are not that far apart. Is he one of the four sibs mentioned in the obituary? I have wondered if he is the same  Anthony Drew Reed mentions.  Some points argue against this.  He would have been counted in two places in the census that year.  Perhaps it is not impossible. I tend to think my bunch had some business involvment before moving to Britan.  In the pictures I have of Patrick Manley he looks like the emperor of Austria or the Czar of Russia in his official ceremonial garb.

I have ordered the LDS records Catholic records for Ballina and will be looking for details as to the above relationships.  Patrick Manley had a terrible temper and his sons got as far away as they could from England.  Two came to the US including my grandfather, another went to Ontario, Canada, another to Kenya and the youngest to Sydney, Australia.  He was Louis Herbert Manley 1893 - 1964 and had two wives and no children. He was in Australia by 1917.  He did not write and it was though he was killed in WWI. He may have been a vet however although I have been unable to find a record of that.

Perhaps you can forward this to Drew Reed.  Do you have any suggestion on getting an obit for Louis Herbert Manley.  I have a copy of his death certificate.  I have been told that the records in Ballina for Catholic families go back no further than 1823.  It's okay for me if that is all there it.  It is enough to have found a location in Ireland at all.

Yours,

Paul Manley  Alameda,California
 

...and an extract from a follow up email....

...I have set three goals in this research.  First, find out where the family came from in Ireland.  Second, locate living descendents in Britain. I had suspected Reed was one of  two families the Manley daughters married around the time of WWI.  Now I know where it fits.  Third, look into my grandfather's younger brother  James F Manley  or Jim Manley.  He was a big game hunter in Kenya from the time of WWI until independence in 1963.  I have copies of his correspondence with Ernest Hemingway and located two groups of letters he wrote to the US side of the family.  I suspect there is another group of letters out there.  He had a business partnership with Baron Blixen of out of "Out of Africa".  He is a very colorful relative....
 
 
Paul Manley  Alameda,California
...More extracts for Paul Manley November 2009..

Hi Peter

Hope you are well.  It has been about two years since I was in touch with you regarding finding Manley ancestors in County Mayo .  I wanted to include you in a message I sent to several others looking into Manley history. I have found the answers to many of the  questions I had two years ago and which your posted on your web site.  My Anthony Manley is still a mystery but he lived in Derby in the 1860’s and then vanished only to reappear living in Nazareth House – a home for elderly Catholic poor in Oxford where he died in 1917.  He left 3 three living daughters.  My grandfather’s brother Jim Manley who was in the Boer War, WWI, WWII and the Mau Mau emergency and a white hunter in colonial Kenay died in his sleep in 1969 and lies buried with his wife in the Langata Cemetery in Nairobi.  I found two lines of second-cousins in England and a third one in Stockholm who remains a British citizen.   She has many of the older family photos

I had found a link to a specific street in Ballina.  Another Australian who visited there this month and I may be distant relatives.  Working with others we sorted out the Munnelly lines in Crossmolina.  I think I have hit the limit on research at this point and can’t really justify much more time in this project.  For this reason I wanted to update you before my memory bank starts failing.

Oh, I seems very very likely that the Manleys or Munnellys were a branch of the O’Doherty clan who migrated to County Mayo at the time of O’Doherty’s Revolt in 1609.  Many O’Dohertys and others were forced to leave Ulster after the revolt failed and migrated to the western part of County Mayo .  That’s the summary of what is known.

Peter, take a look at the end of what follows.  There are records for several  Hanrahans in Bradford – they must be your bunch.

Dear Manley Researchers:

Greetings to all. I want to bring to your attention a few developments.  Marybeth Van Winkle of Scranton , PA has worked very hard transcribing the birth, marriage and death records from the LDS microfilm of the parishes of County Mayo .  Over the past year she has forwarded me findings regarding the Munnelly – Monnelly – Manley group.  Recently, she began putting her transcriptions on-line at this location http://irishhereandthere.yolasite.com/  For now, she has parts of Kilmoremoy  - Ballina and Crossmolina . She plans to put up more parishes in the future.  By looking at the data some patterns emerge.  There seems to be a pattern of sponsors being a brother or sister of the bride or groom.  I read in one book that generally a marriage took place at the bride’s parish or townland.  I not am  not an expert, so take it for what it is worth.

The second item concerns the beta site for Civil Registration beginning in 1864 which is now available here

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

I believe obtaining birth marriage and death certificates or copies of them is now possible through Dublin using the indexes on the site.  I recommend giving it a look.  It is interesting to see that Monnelly is used mainly in Ballina registrations but not found in Bellmullet.  Who knows why?

Another interesting find is research on the McGinley clan.  Particularly interesting is the migration of some of the McGinleys from their homeland in Donegal to County Meath and County Mayo .  The migration to western County Mayo took place around the same time as an off-shoot of the O’Doherty clan is believed to have also moved and became known as Munnellys.  I find it interesting that the author thinks there may have been two migrations to County Mayo . I wonder if there were two Munnelly migrations, one before O’Doherty’s Rebellion and one afterwards.  The McGinley homeland in Donegal is just west of the O’Doherty lands on the Inishowen peninsula. It is the anvil shaped piece of land directly above “ Londonderry ” in the map below.  The McGinley lands are directly west. (..map missing..)

Here is the web site http://mcginleyclan.org/index.htm
 
There are some interesting pictures in the section on “Native Clothing” and descriptions of housing around 1600 in the section on “ Clan Territory ”.  The section on “Special Places” contains some good pictures of Donegal.
 
The BBC site below contains some interesting interviews with historians regarding the context of the Plantation of Ulster.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/index.shtml
 
I have been interested in the migration of people from County Mayo to England around the time of the famine because my own group went there.  Using the Civil Registration index in England I was able to follow the evolution of the name Munnelly and its variants to Manley beginning with the earliest registration in 1837.  What is apparent is that migration was underway before the famine. I found that historians have noted seasonal migration from County Mayo to work the harvest in England .  As the Fall or Autumn was traditionally a slack time in Ireland it was an opportunity for people to make money.  The cost by ship to Liverpool was 2 shillings.  As early as 1850 migrant workers were travelling by train to Lincolnshire in the east of England .  This was the area my group lived in at that same time. 
 
It is possible to find when and where some of the group arrived in England by looking for those who did not change their name to Manley. Here are the results of checks for Munley, Munnelly, Monnelly, Monelly and Monely respectively in most of England or Lancashire and Yorkshire (The industrial north of the country including Liverpool, Leeds and Manchester )   I think use of theo lder forms dropped off pretty soon.  I found a man using both Manly and Manley.
 
Munley FreeBMD 1838 -1870
 
Surname          First name(s)              Age     District            Vol      Page
Deaths Dec 1840   MUNLEY Elizabeth                     Grantham       14       289            Lincohonshire and Leicestershire 
Marriages Dec 1840   MUNLEY       Mary                Liverpool        20       165       
Deaths Jun 1842   MUNLEY Edward                         Manchester     20       477     
Marriages Mar 1852   Munley           Winifred                      Leeds 9b       518     
Marriages Mar 1853   MUNLEY       Patrick                         Leeds 9b       526       
MUNLEY       Patrick                         Leeds 9b       626       
Births Jun 1853   Munley       Mary                Liverpool        8b       214     
Births Jun 1854   MUNLEY   William                       Stockton          10a     67       
Marriages Jun 1854  MUNLEY         Richard                       Shoreditch     1c       440 London
Marriages Dec 1855   MUNLEY       Mary                Leeds 9b       504       
Births Dec 1856   Munley      Margaret                     Berwick         10b     287      Durham
Births Mar 1857  Munley       Samuel John               Redruth          5c       299 Cornwall    
Births Jun 1858  Munley        John                 Liverpool        8b       118       
Deaths Mar 1860  Munley     Thomas                        Leicester         7a       143       
Marriages Jun 1860   Munley            Jane                 Tiverton         5b       755      Devon    
 
Munnelly 1838 -1860
 
Births Sep 1850   Munnelly   Ann                 Liverpool        20       308     
Births Jun 1859   Munnelly    John                 Liverpool        8b       97       
Marriages Jun 1859  
Munnelly        Martin                          West Derby     8b       692       
Munnelly        Martin                          W Derby         8b       698     
 
Monnelly 1838 -1860
 
Surname          First name(s)              Age     District            Vol      Page
Deaths Dec 1849  Monnelly   Hannah                        Liverpool        20       188       
Deaths Sep 1853  Monnelly   Thomas                        W Derby         8b       222       
Births Jun 1858   Monnelly    Bernard                        Birmingham   6d       127     
Births Jun 1860   MONNELLY         John                 Liverpool        8b       77       
 
Monelly 1838-1860
 
Surname          First name(s)              Age     District            Vol      Page
Marriages Jun 1840  MONELLY       Anthony                     Liverpool       20       283 Deaths Sep 1852      MONELLY        Mary Ann                    Birmingham   6d       55
 
Monely 1838-1860
 
Births Jun 1838   Monely       Francis                        Bolton             21       100       
Deaths Mar 1840  MONELY Francis                         Bolton             21       108     
 
West Yorkshire 1838 -1871
 
Deaths Jun 1847    Manly       John                Halifax            22       210     
Births Sep 1847    Manly       John               Halifax             22       265       
Deaths Sep 1848   Manly       Timothy         Halifax            22       132       
Deaths Dec 1850   MANLY   John                 Halifax            22       145       
Marriages Mar 1853   MANLY Ellen                          Bradford Y     9b       226       
Births Mar 1856   MANLY    Elizabeth           Halifax            9a       369     
Births Dec 1862  MANLY     Ellen               Bradford Yk   9b       86 
 
Unrelated to Manleys except through marriage
Hanrahan FreeBMD 1840 -1870
Surname          First name(s)              Age     District            Vol      Page
Marriages Sep 1843   HANRAHAN  John                Bradford Yk    23       179       
Deaths      Jun 1845    HANRAHAN  Mary Ann      Bradford Yk    23       96         
Births      Mar 1846    HANRAHAN  Daniel Bartholomew               Bradford Yk    23            137 
Births Dec      1847  HANRAHAN    Sarah Ann        Bradford Y    23       115
Births Sep      1853   Hanrahan                       Female               Pontefract   9c       74
Deaths    Sep 1853   HANRAHAN     Female               Pontefract   9c       32
 
The city of Leeds has been a magnet for immigrants from County Mayo up until the present time.  There is an Irish cultural center which continues to this day.  Probably many in the 19th Century worked to buy passage to Canada , America and Australia – at least that is what is stated.  I found my own group in Derbyshire working in the silk mills, a young woman at a hat factory, another married to a rag collector in Halifax .  
 
I traced the family of Dominick Manley (1805 – 1885) to the present day and found their occupation mirrored the age steam, the automobile and the information age.  I called a descendent on the phone this year. There was no recollection of the past beyond a hundred years.
 
Dominick Manley street seller, draper, tea salesman
His son John Manley(1856 – 1934) railroad engine cleaner
Son in-law (1875  -1957) pattern maker - automobile industry
Son (1918 – 1986) engineer - automobile industry

Below is a key piece of the history of the McGinleys.  I have looked at the pardon list following O’Doherty’s Rebellion.  O’Doherty was only 19 when he rebelled but his uncle Philem was on the pardon list and many others.

Many Co. Donegal clans such as the Clerys, Devannys, Divers, Gallaghers, McDaids, McLoughlins, McNultys, O’Donnells, Sweeneys, and McGinnellys (the usual spelling there) are to be found in the Burrishoole and Achill Island areas in the west of Co. Mayo. It is recorded that these Donegal clans settled there under the leadership of Ruairí Ó Domhnaill/Rory O’Donnell from Lifford in Co. Donegal. This was just after the time of the Battle of Kinsale (1601), part of the Nine Years War. He was pardoned by the English, along with his followers, for rebellious acts against the English Crown. The first of the Donegal clans arrived there in 1602 (see Edward McLysaght). It would seem therefore that members of the McGinley clan returned home first before being 'moved on' to Connacht . Some folklore says that they stopped in the area on the way to or just returning from Kinsale, but this seems unlikely. It is also recorded that these Donegal names settled there during the Cromwell evictions when thousands of families were forced to leave Donegal. This was between 1654 and 1660. It looks like a two wave migration into the area. Like the case with the McGinnells of Westmeath, it seems likely that many McGinleys settled in Burrishoole and Achil because of the previous settlement in those parts by McGinleys.

During the Ulster rebellions under the leadership of the renowned Cathaoir Ó Dochartaigh, the leader of the O’Doherty clan, the McGinleys did their bit in the war against the English. When the Irish side was finally defeated, the English Government issued a ‘1609 Pardon List’. The compilers prepared the list in a very haphazard way, showing little understanding of the Irish language. They translated names into English as it sounded to them at the time. The list contained a substantial number of warriors who fought under Cathaoir Ó Dochartaigh, many on the list being ‘the chief of their name’, in other words, clan leaders or at least ‘influential members of their clans’. All the usual Donegal clans are represented including McGinley. On the list we find Tirloe McGinelik, the original Irish form would be Toirealach Mag Fhionnghaile. What happened to him we do not know. The Pardon List of 1609 was used by the English for the selection of those they wished to get rid of. The ‘pardons’ were offered as a bribe to leave the country. Those on the list were considered to be dangerous rebels at the very least. What followed after the 1609 Pardons, was very often transportation to Sweden or further afield. Sweden was a friend of England at the time and needed new recruits in their wars with Denmark, Poland and Russia . So, many of Irelands finest young warriors and rebels were ‘shipped off’ to serve a foreign army! Did our Toirealach go too?

There were several Munnelly or varients in the area around Ardagh which Cecilia is believe to have came from.  Unfortunately, it is a parish were we have no records until 1870.

 The 1796 Flax producers in Mayo lists these people.  About the only thing I can add is that flax processing required a lot of water and I believe the Deel River which runs through Crossmolina to the area around Ardagh is the reason why we see so many in that area.  Also, Lough Conn was in the area. Flax and linen  went into a decline from 1800 to 1830   The area could not compete against linen from Germany or the mills that developed in Belfast and Leeds .  Apparantly, the Irish hawkers in the mid 19th Century England were selling linen almost exclusively because of the well known association to Ireland .  Eventually, cotton replaced linen  and hawkers when into deline around the same time – as the section below indicates.  For awhile I though the reason so many in my group were hawkers was because of an earlier connection to flax growing but I have discarded that idea. 

Munily Loughlin Ardagh
Munily Patrick Ardagh
Munily Widow Lackan
Monnilly Edmond Crossmolina
Monnilly James Ballynahaglish a neighbor of Ardagh  
Monnilly Thomas Ardagh
 
Below is something interesting regarding the Irish in the Mid-Lands in the 19th Century which describes conditions in Bradford and its neighbors.  One of my group living in Halifax in the 1860s as rag pickers and hawkers in one of the "foulds" or slum housing  described below. 
 
http://chcc.arts.gla.ac.uk/Migration_and_Ethnicity/section01/mayhew.php
 
...Thaks again Paul..

And again from Paul Manley May 2011,

Peter

It has been a long time since we have been in touch. It looks like I have located the reference to Cecilia Manley’s marriage in Bradford using this site http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

For the search I put 1853  September quarter for Manley looking for marriages in Bradford and go this.

MANLEY Cecily    Bradford Y   9b  226

Then searching for all marriages in Bradford the same quarter and volume 9b page  226 there are the only entries:

CUNNINGHAM Peter  Bradford Y 9b226
HANDERKIN Thomas    Bradford Y 9b226a
LACEY  Elizabeth     Bradford Y 9b226
MANLEY Cecily    Bradford Y 9b226

If seem that Thomas Handerkin may be Thomas Hanrahan

If you are interested in ordering a copy of the certificate it can be done on-line and mailed to you from England .  The cost this year is about 9.25 pounds.  You can order on this site.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

It is straightforward putting in the formation but here are some tips

Check Yes for is the GRO  reference number know

For the year enter 1853

This must be her in the 1851 census living with someone named James Manley – probably a younger brother.   Attached is the form.  I am not sure about putting it on the web as if comes from Ancestry.com which may prohibit distribution.  I would guess James is a brother.   

 (( Note I have removed the Hyperlinks wittin Paul's email, they go to Ancestry.com. Should you wish further research go to their site...Peter))

Name:

Sisley Manley

Age:

15

Estimated Birth Year:

abt 1836

Relation:

Lodger

Gender:

F (Female)

Where born:

Ireland

 

 

Civil parish:

Otley

Town:

Otley

County/Island:

Yorkshire

Country:

England

 

 

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

 

 

Registration district:

Otley

Sub-registration district:

Harewood

ED, institution, or vessel:

8g

Neighbors:

View others on page

Household schedule number:

71

Piece:

2284

Folio:

498

Page Number:

24

Household Members:

Name

Age

Mary Lavell

48

Patrick Lavell

23

Mary Lavell

18

Margarett Lavell

14

John Lavell

12

Bridgett Lavell

8

Catharine Lavell

7

Ellen Lavell

5

Bridgett Lynch

23

Edward Karey

20

James Manley

12

Sisley Manley

15

 

 

I am doubtful we can make a connection back to an exact location in Co Mayo.  There are gaps in the Ballina and Crossmolina baptism from 1837-40.  Near by areas are missing even more.

Take care Peter.  Let’s stay in touch.

Paul Manley  Alameda , CA


Patrick O'Hara & Margaret Murphy



In Brighton Victoria, 1861, Patrick O'Hara married Margaret Murphy. Both Irish, Patrick, a labourer, came from Tipperary; Margaret came from Queens or Kilkenny.

Patrick's death certificate shows his name as O'Hara and parents as Michael O'Hara, farmer and Johanna Dwire. The marriage record shows Patrick Hoare; which I assume is a spelling variation; and the parents as Michael Hoare and Johana Dwyer.  Both documents agree on the birth place as Tipperary. Searching Irish records has been unsuccessful, however some possibilities exist in the shipping records. Patrick died in 1864 aged 28. The certificate noted that he was an out-door patient of the Melbourne Hospital.

Margaret Murphy came from Kilkenny according to her marriage certificate and Queens according to her daughter's birth certificate. Her parents are noted as Denis Murphy, farmer and Catherine Fogarty.  The informant of Patrick's death was "Joseph Murphy, brother-in-law". Patrick and Margaret  had a son, Michael who died at 3 months and a daughter, Mary O'Hara. A search for Joseph's records may be useful.

Margaret seems to have settled with a John Devereux in about 1870. Four children are noted, Julia, Margaret, Nellie and John. They married in the Carlton registrary office in 1885. Margaret's details are recorded as widow, publican, of  Elsternwick; John's, labourer of Broadmeadows. The postal directory of 1885 notes a John Devereux of Murphy St, Elsternwick as a "town's herdsman". Margaret died in Murphy St., in 1890. Searching the hotel records my provide additional info.


O'Hara gravestone
O'Hara Gravestone in the Brighton Cemetery.


 

   

Mary O’Hara & John Hanrahan.
John Hanrahan & Mary
              O'Hara Mary O’Hara married John Hanrahan in 1884 in Elsternwick. They raised a family of eight in their home at 69 Murphy Street, Elsternwick. John’s occupation is listed as contractor. He died in 1922; Mary died at 105 Head St, Elsternwick in 1929. I know little more about the family than this.

Michael Hanrahan, the third son of Thomas & Cecilia is remembered by the family as working as a chauffeur, for Septimus Miller at his property, "Cantala", in Caulfield. Leo Andrews recalls Uncle Mick organizing a family gathering at the property.

 The children of John & Mary Hanrahan ....

    Mary-Anne sometimes used the name May-Anne. Nothing is known of her childhood, she married Albert Andrews in 1910.
Frances married Peter Dinon and moved to Tasmania. Their children were Joseph, Paul, Margaret (Sister Mary Bernadine), Barbara (Sister Mary Aloysius) and Kathleen. Joe and Paul Dinon enlisted in the Australian Army in WW2.

Paul enlisted in the RAA and served in the Heavy Battery, Rabaul (Costal Battery). He was taken prisoner and and perished while being shipped to Japan. The Montevideo Maru was sunk in the South China Sea by the USS Sturgeon on 1 July 1942. See wikipedia for details
Joseph enlisted in the 2/40 Battalion (TX8275) in Tasmania and served as a private in the Timor theater of war where he was taken prisoner. He was held in a POW camp in Thailand (and or maybe Changi). Joe went on to be a Tasmanian boxing champion post WW2. (thanks to Pam Gawith for additions and corrections)

Joseph, (Uncle Joe) ran a motor garage in Murrumbeena for many years.

Alice  lived in 105 Head St Elwood for many years He first husband, Clarrie Bell, passed away in 1954 and in 1961 she married Ted Hall. Uncle Ted was a retired public servant and most likeable chap. They moved to his place in Mt Evelyn where I remember they grew strawberries. Later they moved to a cottage in Yarra Junction. Auntie Alice was close to the Andrews family. Alice passed away in 1982.  Much of the Hanrahan family papers were lost after Ted's death in 1992.

 
 



 
Mary-Ann HANRAHAN
Mary Ann Hanrahan

Mary-Ann HANRAHAN and Albert William ANDREWS were married at St Mary’s, St Kilda East in 1910. Both the Andrews and Hanrahan families came from the Brighton, Elsternwick area. Albert was a clerk and, at one time, was employed by a Real Estate firm. The marriage was against the wishes of Mary-Ann’s parents. The marriage ran into difficulties and Mary-Ann and Albert seperated and finally divorced in about 1925. 

Seven children Lance, Kathleen, John (Jack), Eleanor (Nellie or Nin) Jean, Leo, and William (Bill) followed. Leo Andrews vaguely remembers, aged about four, living in Ripponlea. Then he remembers living in Hurstbridge, then two different houses in Diamond Creek, and then back to New St. Brighton. Mary-Ann was struggling with her health and the young children. From time to time she could not look after all the children and the older ones were put into care for a year or so. Lance & Jack went to St Vincent de Paul’s orphanage and the girls, Kathleen, Nelly & Jean, to the Abbotsford Convent.

The following is from conversations with Leo Andrews in 1994.

After the initial move to the Hurstbridge area we moved back to Brighton. Although a year older, Bill and I were enrolled together in school at St James, (Gardenvale). Then the family moved to St Kilda, and then to Punt Road, Windsor, and then to rooms in Greville St. Auntie Ann (Maguire) Hanrahan possibly owned this. There we attended the local schools.

Subsequent moves were to Greensborough, Eltham, back to Greensborough, then Highett St. Richmond. Next back to Greensborough, into four different places including a place in Flintoff Street.

In 1935, after our mother had died we shifted down to a boarding house in South Yarra. This was not successful and then we rented a house in Trinian St. We stayed here until Lance married. He stayed on at Trinian St and the rest of us moved to board with Mrs Tomasetti in Northcote Road Armidale, moving out as we got married. Mrs Tom was a very nice person, putting up with us boys and our motor bikes without a complaint.

We had two horses when we lived in Greensborough, one was a very old horse and the other, an ex race horse, we got from Uncle Jack (Hanrahan). We did not have a saddle when we used to ride the ex racehorse. It would go hard and then you couldn't stop it. It would go like mad and you were not strong enough to stop it. One day we fell off and the horse went home without us. When we moved back to town the horses went up to Eltham; we must have given them to someone.

Mum would travel from Eltham to Brighton where she worked as a domestic. There was no social security in those days. One day she did not have enough money for a train fare to go to work. We collected wild flowers from the bush and sold them by the road to St Helena. We collected 2/- and the fare was only 1/3. Mum was most upset, she did not know we were doing it. We would pick mushrooms and later on Bill & I would make a little money picking blackberries on a Saturday.

We lived in six different houses altogether in Greensborough. They were going to open a new school at Briar Hill. And we went there on the very first day it opened. Bill and I went there, Lance and Jack were still in the home and came up there later. This was the first time I can remember we were all together as a family. With all the moves we went to Briar Hill school three times altogether. From there we went on to Collingwood Tech travelling daily by train.

In 1934 Mary-Ann passed away at home in Flintoff St. Greensborough. She had a long term heart condition. Albert attended the funeral did not stay in contact with the family.  The older children, Lance and Kathleen, became the guardians of the younger ones. Lance, the oldest would have been about 22 and Bill, the youngest about 12. Support came from their mother's younger sister Alice.